this thread (jeff & dr. a's comments) made me think of a very wise (i think) thing that a college classmate of mine once said: "i'm a quick learner. why, you only have to show me seven or eight times, and then i've got it!" i've always felt this statement was an excellent reminder that, in this age of lightning speed and instant gratification, some things still take practice and patience. if you're like me, sometimes you are ready to give up after the first one, or maybe two, unsuccessful attempts at something. now i'm going to go practice being tenacious! another SIP alumna, -- janek, aka jane kinkus of starkville, mississippi "caterpillar sheds his skin to find the butterfly within..." -donovan
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